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Post by NotRepublicanOrDemocrat on Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:16 pm

If you are from California and reading this remember why you left. In sane states we don't want ultra left wing tax and spend and government control. NOT that the Republicans have your best interests at heart with religious oppression and controlling a womans reproductive rights. We'll keep our gun rights as well as gay rights and the right to choose. How about freedom and independence EVERYONE? Freedom from NY, NJ, CA & MA control and regulation! If you like Jerry Brown, Gun Control, Big Government or Nancy Pelosi and you move to MY state KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!

Free speech on campus NOT allowed in California:

Due to high taxes, burdensome
regulations, lack of public sector reforms, and a lackluster job
climate, more people have left California than come to the state since
2005, according to a comprehensive study by the Manhattan Institute
released on Tuesday, suggesting California is no longer “perceived by
most Americans as the land where dreams come true.”

In the report, titled “The
Great California Exodus: A Closer Look," Tom Gray and Robert
Scardamalia found Californians have fled to states like Texas, Arizona,
Nevada, Colorado, Idaho, South Carolina, and Georgia because those
states have a better economic climate with less taxes and regulation.

The report found that between 1960 and 1990, 4.2 million
Americans moved to California and helped accelerate California’s booming
economy. Since 1990, though, California has lost nearly all of that
gain, with net domestic out-migration averaging 225,00 residents a year.
Between 2000 and 2010, out-migration has resulted in lost income of
5.67 billion to Nevada, $4.96 billion to Arizona, $4.07 to Texas, and
$3.85 billion to Oregon.

The study found that “if all these trends continue,
California may find itself in a situation similar to that of New York
and the states of the midwestern Rust Belt in the last century, which
have seen populations stagnate for decades, or even fall.”

Mitt Romney, on the campaign trail, has often warned that
under four more years of President Barack Obama, the nation could become
more like California. Decades ago, this would have been taken as a
compliment. But, as the report details, it is anything but so today.


Californians are leaving for states like Texas because
those states have more jobs and economic opportunity. The report notes
that “more often than not, people move because there is a better
opportunity elsewhere” and “families looking for economic opportunity
travel to Texas now,” where the economy, unlike California’s, has been

Those families had once traveled to
California. But that is no longer so because companies “set up shop
where conditions are more conducive to making a profit.” This also
impacts retirees, who may move to “migrate to be near children who have
taken jobs in another state.”

Consider Oklahoma. As the study notes, net migration from
California to Oklahoma totaled only 775 residents from 1991 to 2000. Ten
years later, Oklahoma’s job market was stronger than California’s, and
2,125 Californians moved to Oklahoma from 2001-2010.

Further, the study found most of
the states Californians are fleeing to are right-to-work states. Of the
ten top states Californians have fled to, "seven (Texas, Arizona, Utah,
Idaho, Nevada, Georgia, and North Carolina) have right-to-work laws that
explicitly ban the compulsory union shop."


The study found most of the “destination states favored by
Californians have lower taxes,” and, as a general rule, “Californians
have tended to flee high taxes for low ones.”

The study also examines several trends that may have
instigated or accelerated the out-migration from California to more
economically friendly states since 1990.

In 1990, California’s recession was worse than the rest of
the nation’s, and the state’s unemployment rate surpassed the national

At the same time, not only were taxes on the rise in
California, but residents and business owners felt that “the tax revolt
that had started with Proposition 13 in 1978 seemed to be out of gas”
because  even Republicans, like Gov. Pete Wilson, were supporting and
signing off on tax increases.

“It was a sign that California’s political leaders had
abandoned any notion of trying to spur growth through tax cuts,” the
authors write.

The study found that “California’s volatile tax structure
(it depends heavily on corporate profits and income from capital gains)
and its inability to restrain spending in high-revenue years made the
state government increasingly vulnerable to a recessionary shock,” and
that shock arrived in the early 2000s.

Public Sector Instability

The authors note that long before California’s
municipalities began declaring bankruptcy in 2012, California’s Standard
& Poor’s bond rating, by 2003, was already at “BBB,” the worst in
the nation. The state then was “patching together budgets through
short-term borrowing and accounting tricks,” and, as a result, “when
recovery arrived in the middle of the decade, it did not resolve the
structural imbalances between revenues and spending,” which is the cause
of California’s troubles today. As of 2012, California has the lowest
S&P rating in the nation.

According to the report, the “fiscal distress in
government sends at least two discouraging messages to businesses and
individuals.” First, they “cannot count on state and local governments
to provide essential services—much less, tax breaks or other
incentives.” Second, “chronically out-of-balance budgets can be seen as
tax hikes waiting to happen, with businesses and their owners the
likeliest targets to tap for new revenue.”

“In contrast, a fiscally competent state inspires confidence that it can sustain its services without unpleasant tax surprises.”

One interesting note the authors found: “Of the ten states
that sent the most people to California in the past decade, eight are
high-tax jurisdictions—and the only two that are not, Illinois and
Michigan, had low credit ratings".

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According to the report, California’s regulations make it
more difficult for employers to stay in or come to the state. It cites a
2005 study by the Milken Institute that found California was the fourth
worst state in which to conduct business. This study even left out the
impact of regulations, which the report noted was hard to measure
precisely because it was difficult to quantify “the cost of delays,
paperwork, and uncertainty due to unfriendly laws and bureaucrats” and
that this was “not an exact science.” The report  cited additional
“business climate” surveys that “rank California near the bottom in the
regulation category.”

Population and migration pattern studies are reflective
because they are important indicators of a state's political and fiscal

“Migration choices reveal an important truth: some states
understand how to get richer, while others seem to have lost the touch,”
the authors write. “People will follow economic opportunity. The theme
is clear in the data: states that provide the most opportunity draw the
most people.”

The report notes that California’s leaders can start to
“do something about the instability of public-sector finances,” “rethink
regulations that hold back business expansion and cost employers time
and money,” enact policies that enable more development of land instead
of allowing environmentalists to have a veto over any land-use
decisions, which would make land cheaper and more livable.

How California confronts this
situation "will send a strong signal, whichever way they go: the state’s
voters will be deciding to continue on the path of high taxes and high
costs—or to make a break with the recent trend of decline."

“California’s economy remains diverse and
dynamic; it has not yet gone the way of Detroit,” the authors note. “It
still produces plenty of wealth that can be tapped by state and local
governments. Tapping that private wealth more wisely and frugally can go
far to keep more of it from leaving.”

This study used data from the Census, the Internal Revenue
Service, the state’s Department of Finance, the Bureau of Labor
Statistics, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and other sources.

Stay OUT of these states in particular. You don't want to live in a state that Californians are taking over...

California - The land of Extreme Control and HIGH Taxes...  Californiaexodus

This is what they will turn your state into if they move there!

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Repost of Blog by Michael
16 Reasons To Move Away From California

Once upon a time, millions upon millions of young people dreamed of
moving to California.  Nearly endless sunshine, pristine beaches and a
booming economy made it seem like paradise to many.  But now those days
are long gone.  Unemployment is rampant, home prices have fallen like a
rock, violent crime and gang activity are on the rise, local governments
all over California are facing horrible financial problems, millions of
illegal immigrants have poured into the state, traffic around the big
cities is nightmarish and tax rates are absolutely outrageous.  Plus
there is the constant threat that your home could be destroyed by an
earthquake, a wildfire or a mudslide.  In recent years, hordes of hard
working families have decided that they have had enough and have decided
to move away from California.  In fact, since the year 2000 more than 1.6 million people have moved away from the state of California.
There are still a few pockets of the state that are still very
beautiful and that have been sheltered from the economic nightmare that
is sweeping the rest of the state.

But in general, most cities in California are rapidly becoming giant hellholes.

Without a doubt, the “California Dream” has now become a “California Nightmare” for most residents of the state.

Do you live in California?  If so, perhaps now is the time to move.  
The following are 16 really good reasons to move away from California….

#1 California Is Run By Elitist Control Freaks That Have No Common Sense At All

Politicians in California seem to love to impose absolutely
ridiculous rules and regulations on the taxpayers.  For example, many
local governments in the state are now seeking to require that most new
housing be built with at least 20 units on a single acre.  This gives
the phrase “being close with your neighbors” a whole new meaning.  The
following is from a recent Wall Street Journal article….

Metropolitan area governments are adopting plans that
would require most new housing to be built at 20 or more to the acre,
which is at least five times the traditional quarter acre per house.
State and regional planners also seek to radically restructure urban
areas, forcing much of the new hyperdensity development into narrowly
confined corridors.

There are many more examples of this “control freak” mentality.  As I wrote about recently, one California town is actually considering making it illegal to smoke in your own backyard.

In some California cities you even need to get permission from the
government to gather with your friends.  For example, in San Juan
Capistrano it is actually illegal to hold a home Bible study without a “conditional use permit“.

#2 California Is A Horrible Place To Do Business

For seven years in a row,
CEOs ranked California as the worst place in the United States to do
business.  Thousands of good companies have left the state in recent
years, and yet California lawmakers continue to pile on more rules,
regulations and taxes.

#3 The California Economy Is A Gigantic Mess

The unemployment rate in California is still well above 10 percent.
In fact, the number of people unemployed in the state of California is
approximately equivalent to the populations of Nevada, New Hampshire and
Vermont combined.  In 2010, only about 37 percent of the entire population of the state of California had a job.

#4 Municipalities All Over California Are Going Broke And Will Soon Need To Raise Taxes Substantially Just To Survive

Did you know that Stockton, California is so broke that it recently started skipping debt payments?  The following is from a recent Reuters article….

Badly hit by the burst of the property boom,
California’s Stockton, with 292,000 people and east of San Francisco,
has endorsed defaults on $2 million of debt payments and may file for
municipal bankruptcy if it cannot reach deals with creditors. The
California ski resort, Mammoth Lakes, is also bargaining with creditors
in a bid to avoid bankruptcy.

But as bad as Stockton is doing, the truth is that Orange County may
be in even worse shape.  The following is from a recent article by Chriss Street….

Like the Titanic a hundred years ago that ignored
warnings and ran full-speed into a massive iceberg, Orange County is
taking enormous financial risks rather than addressing its gaping
cash-flow deficit. The county quietly entered into $518 million of illiquid and unsecured interest rate wagers,
mostly financed from payroll and savings accounts of local schools and
other government agencies. With spending rising, revenue falling, and
liquidity drying up, the danger of hitting another iceberg is becoming

Despite falling property and sales taxes, Orange County inexplicably increased
spending by $145.8 million for this fiscal year, which ends on June 30,
2012. In an exceptionally selfish move to bail-out the county’s gaping
budget shortfall, the Orange County Treasurer in November skimmed off $73.5 of property taxes that belonged to local schools and community colleges.

At this point, the Orange County Employees Retirement System is estimated to have a 10 billion dollar unfunded pension liability.

How does a single county dig a 10 billion dollar hole?

#5 Desperate Municipalities Are Severely Slashing Government Services All Over The State

When you have no more money, you have to start cutting somewhere.  In
many cities in California, government services are being curtailed
dramatically.  Just check out what is going on in Costa Mesa….

Costa Mesa, a city of 110,000 south of Los Angeles,
has slashed its payroll from 611 to 450. It is selling its police
helicopters and has hired a neighboring city for air patrols. It’s also
pursuing a controversial effort to convert to a charter city from a
general law city, which would give City Hall more power to outsource
more work, said councilman Jim Righeimer.

In Oakland things got so bad that the police chief announced at one point that his department would no longer respond
to certain crimes.  The list of crimes included grand theft, burglary,
car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism.  Today, Oakland is considered the 5th most violent city in the United States.

In Stockton the budget cuts got so bad that the police union put up a
billboard at one point with the following message: “Welcome to the 2nd
most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops.”

#6 The State Government In Sacramento Is Flat Broke

Earlier this year, newspapers all over the state ran headlines declaring that California is running out of money again.
Tax revenues are way down as many expenses continue to rise.  
California state government revenues for February 2012 were down by about 22 percent compared to February 2011.

Will California soon be paying their bills with IOUs again?

California taxpayers should realize that it is only a matter of time
before lawmakers try to hit them with more tax increases of one form or

#7 California Has Some Of The Highest Tax Rates In The Nation

The last thing many California taxpayers want to hear is that taxes
might be raised again.  Californians already get absolutely hammered by
taxes. California has one of the highest state income tax rates in the
nation, one of the highest sales tax rates in the nation and the highest
gasoline tax rate in the nation.

Unfortunately, it is only a matter of time before the politicians come around for even more.

#8 Poverty Is Absolutely Exploding In California

Once upon a time, California was viewed as a land of great opportunity.

Now it is a land of crushing poverty in many areas.

Sadly, the number of children living in poverty in the state of California has increased by a staggering 30 percent since 2007.

In addition, 60 percent of all students attending California public schools now qualify for free or reduced-price school lunches.

#9 The Is An Epidemic Of Crime And Gang Violence In California

Many families are deciding to move away from California because there are fewer and fewer areas that are still safe.

For example, the following story from Rancho Cordova, California that one of my readers sent me was featured in one of my previous articles….

When I first moved here, it was not a bad place, it was quiet and clean.

However, over the past three years this place has gone to the dumps there are thugs and unruly people everywhere.

I have prevented two car break-ins by scaring these thugs away.

While I was home on thanksgiving weekend, someone decided to break into my apartment.

They trashed my place stole all my items and even took my law enforcement (LE) vehicle to include my equipment.

I’m sure they had been watching me for a while because they did not take items that contained my identification.

Thank god, I had my weapon with me.
Fortunately the gentleman in that story was not there when his home
was broken into.  Thieves are becoming bolder and bolder and many home
invasions happen whether there are occupants in the home or not.

The following home invasion story from Sacramento, California was sent to me by one of my readers a while back….

Somebody got into my sister’s house last night while
she was out. My mom was upstairs, but didn’t hear anything. Whoever it
was, they ate some chips and sorted through a stack of maternity clothes
my sister had ready for selling on ebay. He left a dirty pair of boxer
shorts and a bottom dentures on the dining room table. Fortunately, he
was gone when she got home. I’m amazed, but the police actually came out
and collected fingerprints and his boxers and false teeth. Probably a
homeless guy. He may have switched his dirty boxers for a clean pair of
maternity jeans, so the police just have to look for a guy wearing
women’s maternity pants with no lower teeth.

Who does that kind of thing?

Unfortunately, when people get desperate they tend to throw out the normal rules that most of us live by.

Every state has crime, but things are getting particularly bad in
California.  A reader that works in law enforcement down in the Los
Angeles area left the following comment on a recent article….

I work in law enforcement in LA (I fortunately don’t
live there). LA is a third world country, trash everywhere, graffiti,
gangs (mostly Hispanic). I’m sick of illegals primarily Mexicans (I’m
American of Mexican descent). These liberal politicians will not stop
aid to illegals which costs this state 21 billion dollars a year, which
is about the same as our current deficit. I earn a pretty decent income
and my wife has a meager salary, but it seems to get more and more
difficult to earn a living in this state. If I can make it to
retirement, I’m probably going to leave this state.

Another reader identified as Rob left the following comment….

I have lived here off and on for 42 years. Hellhole
is not strong enough a word for it. One cannot go anywhere without
seeing Graffitti from these gangs. Illegal Aliens are literally on every
corner and every home depot. LA County alone spent 600 million in aid
to illegal aliens not including education being factored in and the
state spent 110 billion last year on just programs, welfare, aid to
illegal entitlement programs, no ******** wonder why we are broke, the
liberal agenda out here is astonishing, these liberals literally
couldn’t see the forest through the trees. I am so sick of seeing
Nortenos, Surenos, LaFamilia, and other hispanic gangs crowding our
prisons, illegals underage having their anchor babies, illegals crowding
the ER’s, crowding the schools. No wonder why the teachers are pissed
off. I agree, this state sucks, and we will be moving very soon.

#10 As Poverty And Crime Grow Many California Cities Are Being Transformed Into Hellholes

Nature abhors a vacuum.  As successful businesses and hard working
families move away from California, other elements are moving in to
replace them.  Many formerly great California cities are now just a
shell of their former selves.  The following is an excerpt from a New York Times article that describes what is going on in Vallejo, California….

Vallejo is still in bankruptcy. The police force has
shrunk from 153 officers to 92. Calls for any but the most serious
crimes go unanswered. Residents who complain about prostitutes or
vandals are told to fill out a form. Three of the city’s firehouses were
closed. Last summer, a fire ravaged a house in one of the city’s better
neighborhoods; one of the firetrucks came from another town, 15 miles
away. Is this America’s future?

There are some parts of large California cities that are an absolute
nightmare.  For example, there is an area of San Francisco that is known
as “Hunter’s Point” that is so run down that it is hard to believe that
people actually live there.  The following is what one reporter discovered on a visit to Hunter’s Point….

Abernathy and I cut through the complex, tromping
over an expanse of dirt and concrete toward the northeast end of the
development, where a row of apartments looked down from a grassy hill.
We paused next to a vacant, boarded-over unit to take in the scene: A
stream of ****, piss, tampons, and toilet paper spewed from a dark hole
in the sidewalk, poured down the hill, and formed a sort of **** lagoon
next to the street. Weeds, about six inches tall, were growing in the
little lagoon.

Raw ****, obviously, is not cool. Beyond the fact that it smells
and looks nasty, fecal matter provides a haven for dangerous bacteria,
most notably E. coli, a virulent pathogen that can sicken and even kill
humans, especially infants.

But it is not just the big cities that are being transformed into hellholes.

The following is how Victor Davis Hansen described what he experienced during his tour of the “forgotten areas of central California”….

Many of the rural trailer-house compounds I saw
appear to the naked eye no different from what I have seen in the Third
World . There is a Caribbean look to the junked cars, electric wires
crisscrossing between various outbuildings, plastic tarps substituting
for replacement shingles, lean-tos cobbled together as auxiliary
housing, pit bulls unleashed, and geese, goats, and chickens roaming
around the yards. The public hears about all sorts of tough California
regulations that stymie business – rigid zoning laws, strict building
codes, constant inspections – but apparently none of that applies out

#11 California Has Some Of The Worst Schools In The Nation

Many families are moving away from California because the public
schools are absolutely nightmarish.  The truth is that California has
some of the worst schools in the entire nation.  In the late 70s,
California was number one in per-pupil spending on education, but now
the state has fallen to 48th place.

#12 Political Correctness Runs Rampant In California

In California, control freaks love to run for public office, and once
they get power they love to shove their personal agendas down the
throats of everyone else.  According to, one new California law actually makes it mandatory
for all public school children to receive instruction on the “role and
contributions” that “lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans”
have played in the “development of California and the United States of

#13 California Does Not Respect The Rights Of Parents

Over and over, the state of California has shown that it could not
care less about the rights of parents.  For example, according to Natural News
a bill was recently passed in the state of California that allows
health officials to vaccinate children as young as 12 for
sexually-transmitted diseases without ever having to get the approval of
the parents….

California’s Assembly Bill 499 has already quietly
passed both the California House and Senate, and today sits on the desk
of Gov. Jerry Brown where it awaits his signature. The bill, which is
only a single page in length, contains specific language that will allow
children as young as 12 to opt for sexually-transmitted disease (STD)
vaccines like HPV (Gardasil, Cervarix), Hepatitis B, and any future
vaccines developed to treat STDs, without having to attain parental

#14 California Has One Of The Worst Health Care Systems In America

All over California, hospitals are shutting down.  A big reason for
this is because of the massive numbers of poor people and illegal aliens
that are taking advantage of “free” medical care at hospital emergency
rooms.  A number of good hospitals have been forced to shut down in
recent years and now the state of California ranks dead last out of all 50 states in the number of emergency rooms per million people.

#15 California – The Land Of The Lawsuits

If you live in the state of California, there is a really good chance
that you will be slapped with a lawsuit at some point.  According to
the Institute for Legal Reform, the “lawsuit climate” in California is ranked number 46 out of all 50 states.

#16 The “Big One” Could Hit California At Any Time

The state of California lies directly along the infamous “Ring of Fire“.
Approximately 90 percent of all the earthquakes in the world happen
along the Ring of Fire and the “Big One” could hit the state at any

So what do you think?

What advice would you give to someone considering whether or not to move away from California?

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